![]() 08/03/2020 at 18:17 • Filed to: Morning Oppo | ![]() | ![]() |
Yes I was being sarcastic in the title
Morning oppo
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That's not your father's Oldsmobile.
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Don’t scare me like that!
Snow shouldn’t start here for at least another month and a half. At least!
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Must be a harsh Australian winter. I thought things were supposed to be hearing up down there.
How's the, wait, what was it called? Chery something? How's the CHINESE KA HOLDIN UP?!?! Are you pleased with your purchase?
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what is that car?
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TBH I’d take some snow right now. It’s hot AF. I think this was last September. I still had my Z rated summer tires on my car.
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That’s so crazy. I’m sitting in the sun and I read reports about storms, hail and snow this morning. I scoffed!
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Holden up? Too soon man.
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Are the bumper and the body different colored?
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Oh man, I can’t wait for snow.
Wait a minute...
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It’s a 2014 Chery J3! A Chinese brand...
he bought it as a cheap DD replacement for his Mitsu Lancer not long ago when the Lancer’s engine bit the dust...
https://oppositelock.kinja.com/i-bought-a-thing-1844432015
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Hope you have your winter tires on! :P
How is the Chery holding up?
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cool
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Too soon for what? I'm afraid I don't get it.
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I don't think so, but plastic and metal often don't reflect quite the same in low light, even when they're painted at the same time.
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On 17 February 2020, General Motors announced that the Holden brand would be retired by 2021.
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Hmm, thats quite possible
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I looked back at his first post and I think it just has slightly the wrong colored bumper.
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Yes, but what does that have to do with him buying a cheap used Chinese car or my comment asking about its merit?
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Will be registered in the next few days
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I think so
I reckon it’s been in a small crash as there are a pair of trims missing from the front bumper
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I’d say come on down to sunny Ballarat
But you can’t
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Chery J3
I bought it a couple of weeks ago
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Aah gotcha! At least its clearly legible...my Mini mustve been in a crash too (glass under the rear seat) but its been repaired really well and I didn't know bout the crash from carfax. Learnt bout it about a year after I bought it...
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That’s why car fax is a scam, not worth the paper it’s printed on
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You said holdin’. Haven’t you heard the Ford guys joking about how it’s called a Holden because it’s just barely holden together ? Sly of you to slip that in.
There’s a painful irony in that the Chinese cars we all scoffed at when they entered our market a decade ago are still here, while the beloved local heroes are dead.
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Not unless it’s within 5km of Kew.
I can visit Abbotsford though, what a shithole haha.
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Ya....
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I believe I may have heard that before, but it wasn’t intentional. I don’t think I have ever heard someone in real life even mention Holden (besides myself). I am now thoroughly proud of this unintentional slight.
Chery isn't there anymore, right? Sad to see the once great Holden name go, but it is better than becoming a zombie or a vegetable like Saab and Lancia respectively. Holden already was pretty ravaged by years of poorly placed US market carryovers.
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Now autocheck, that isn't worth the air required to pronounce those words or the electricity to type this sentence out.
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Haha, I figured. I was just joshin’. You should be proud of understanding very localised and obsolete slang.
Sadly it did briefly become a zombie but yes, it’s mostly for the best I guess. Exactly, the poorly placed carryovers, it’s such a shame. It reflects the fact that GM has long been struggling in the same way.
I’m not sure about Chery actually. Plenty of other Chinese manufacturers creeping in though, you see them about.
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It is sort of strange that they don’t form some sort of export company in Australia with a unified dealer network. They would have a much easier time gaining market share if they worked together.
Oppo is basically my introduction to the large world outside of the small world of Atlanta, Georgia, USA. It is remarkable how much I have learned, actively and passively, from coming here.
And I bet the Europpos and Aussies in particular are now full of useless American car trivia from us North American commenting about weird forgotten badge engineering and the like.
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Odd, there’s only a handful of Aussies here! Pip is the most vocal. I don’t think anybody really notices me, but I’ve been here daily for 6 years or something haha.
Correct, I know an awful lot about American stuff from being here. I saw a Fiero in Aus a year or two ago and knew what it was without even thinking. Also some of the subtler things like truck culture. Down here we don’t even call them trucks - the word “truck” is reserved exclusively for 18-wheelers and box trucks and the like. To us, a big ute is a pickup.
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There is also, wait, who is the outback farmer guy? And there are probably plenty of lurkers from all over the globe. And the Europpos aren’t here as often either. It’s kind of like US + Canada and a little from the rest of the English speaking world.
No one here knows what a ute is at all. Meaning in the American interpretation to be a small unibody pickup. “Truck” is overused but a good word. EVERYTHING is a truck.
Wait, someone imported a Fiero? Haha, I’m sorry, they just don’t have the prestige for me to ever consider that as a possibility.
I do enjoy learning a little something new about the rest of the world though. Much easier than actually traveling, not that I have the money or time for that.
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That’d be me...hardly a farmer.
There’s a dead Fiero in a yard just down the road from here. They were converted to RHD using a Volvo steering rack...never common. And probably not worth fixing.
Holden in. Holden up. Holden on. Holden down. Holden out...
Chery as a brand is dead here. Primarily because someone in China changed their mind about safety upgrades and the local distributor gave it away. Ateco Automotive wa s a big player in the distribution of Chinese brands here but has pulled back to just LDV. Most of the Chinese manufacturers now distribute directly - MG and Haval/Great Wall certainly do.
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Ah, what is all that land for then? Ranching? Scenery?
I think it is so strange that you have to convert cars to RHD to drive them on your roads. There are plenty of people who drive RHD cars here, albeit very much enthusiast weekend cars, and they have no problem if they aren’t recklessly passing o n a two lane road. Who would spend the money on a Fiero to do that?
I just think it is so strange that the various com peting Chinese brands aren’t consolidating dealer costs and preventing too much in fighting with similar models instead of targeting big brands. Holden will leave a hole in the market, so maybe they will fill it.
And they will not do well in the US if they don’t do something about their brand image being Chinese. If Great Wall introduces a good reasonably priced car and another sells crap, they’d both go down and probably take poor Mitsubishi with it. I find it hard to really tell them apart.
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It doesn’t make any sense! He must have converted it to RHD and everything. Why bother when we’ve got plenty of MR2s in the country? By all accounts the MR2 is a better car in every way.
One thing that I’m still not over is the trend of applying “-amino” to anything that’s been turned into a ute. As if the El Camino is the only ute ever produced, and there isn’t a name for that style of car. The Camino isn’t even the only American ute!
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The Mr. 2 is such a better looking car, more refined, more powerful, more everything! I don’t understand at all! It’s like they loved them from afar and didn’t ever see one before they had the work done. I really want evidence this exists.
In fact, the whole RHD requirement is just so bizarre. Makes for some double takes when you see a pure USDM car with the dang wheel on the wrong dang side.
The Ford Ranchero is also pretty interesting. But that and the Subaru Baja were basically the only utes people k now about so the name gets way overused. And we don’t know what a ute is so it is “amino,” always.
Wait, Dodge Rampage, Subaru Brat, Honda Ridgeline, and plenty of the two door removable top trucklets are close.
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More reliable too, those Fieros really got a reputation. Seems GM sort of dropped the ball which they literally always do .
Super bizarre. I had to triple take.
Be careful haha , we’d call the Ridgeline a pickup. Even probably the SSR. If it’s not truly car-based or at least the size of a sedan, it probably goes in the pickup basket. Remember we have virtually no F150 over here or anything as big as that or bigger, so by comparison, the Ridgeline is pretty big.
Here’s the Fiero I saw.
And here’s some Fiero graffiti that lives near me. It’s probably more Hall and Oats graffiti, but still.
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The land is for the vicarious pursuit of lifestyle...it’s a glorious thing.
As for the Chinese brands combining forces... hahahaha hahahaha. That’s like expecting Ford and GM to do much the same thing...why do that?
All the shit we currently give Chinese cars is the same shit your Dad and Grandad gave to Japanese cars back in the 60s and 70s and your Dad probably gave to Korean cars in the early 90s...nothing has changed.
One thing for sure is that the Chinese have learnt faster than either the Japanese or the Koreans did. The other thing is that the Chinese are clearly not that interested in making cars and trucks for America...they obviously realise that there’s not much opportunity there.
Mitsubishi have pulled back into their home market now and will pursue Asia, India and Australasia as their core markets on behalf of the Alliance. They are far from dead...battered and bruised for sure but by no means dead.
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Chery is gone too
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this is as heavy as it got too.
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i’d take some heat right now.
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not when he always bought Holdens
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The Fiero would have been a much different story had it launched with a V6 and not had issues with bursting into flames (greatly exaggerated, but still). T he cool and unique exterior could only hide so many of Drop The Ball Inc’s mistakes. And that interior looks like someone raided an Ace Hardware.
It just seems so deeply strange to me that anyone would import one and go through all that trouble.
First gen Ridgeline is a four door Ute here. Second gen is a travesty. They are a good size though. Most Americans don't like good size, but oversized, which is not without its merits.
Forgot about the SSR but that is definitely a sport Ute, like the Maloo HSV, except slower.
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So Great Wall is the Hyundai of 2040? Maybe 2030 at their rate. Huge improvement in a short time.
Mitsub ishi is not long for the US. All you have to do is look at a dealer with 90% used inventory trying to peddle Eclipse Crosses and Mirages new and you can see that. Plus, never seeing them on the road even in niche brand friendly Atlanta. I don't see them clawing back their market share anytime soon.
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Completely agree about the Fiero.
Haha the SSR is super hard to classify it really is.
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Except I can’t see GW ever doing a Veloster.
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The current Veloster is really a brand image shaper. Great for the brand as a whole. GW, eh, maybe eventually. Hyundai didn't quite get it right the first go around.